I had more or less the same discussion with both Grok and Gemini about the origin of the universe and causality, asking them both if time was a property of the universe, then the universe can't possibly have a causal origin, right? and moving from there. I'm not well educated in quantum physics, but I was interested in how my conjecture on the topic mirrored if any scientists and philosophers in the field.

For my money, Grok is smarter.

When I asked about time emergent from a higher-order, or integrated realm where information is encoded logically but without dimension, and time being the differential axis along which a derivation of that higher-order realm is projected, or derived out in what we experience as time, both Grok and Gemini pointed to similarities in the works of St Augustine.

But at that point, once I started to flesh out the conversation with theorizing, Grok kinda started to diverge. It came back discussing similarities with Bohm's later work (he did a lot of work on the ...